Joshua Pearsall @PracticalCL

@PageauJonathan Dude Richard Hooker in Book V of the Laws literally says salvation is union with God via participation in the deified humanity of Christ through the Holy Spirit. This is not some uniquely EO idea.

Joe claims that the Jews thought they only could worship God in Jerusalem where they offered sacrifice. That is obviously false (and Joe won't admit this of course doing what he does) In Daniel 3:17, Daniel explicitly says he serves God. The Hebrew term פָֽלְחִ֔ין (the nominal being "pelach") is the term the LXX translates with "latreuo" and itself refers to divine worship in Daniel. In the book of Daniel, in fact, the term exclusively is given to deity. His claim would entail that Daniel never "really" worshipped God. And of course the command to love God with all our heart, mind, and soul and worship him with these things is obviously not limited to the place where you make material sacrifice. But of course, he will try to weasel/lawyer out of it by saying "well that is only latreuo improperly and not properly". But if that were true, Angels could never "really worship" God. Aquinas refutes this well. Sacrifice is offered to God alone; this does not mean you can only offer such sacrifices via a material altar: "I answer that, As stated above (Article 1), a sacrifice is offered in order that something may be represented. Now the sacrifice that is offered outwardly represents the inward spiritual sacrifice, whereby the soul offers itself to God according to Psalm 50:19, "A sacrifice to God is an afflicted spirit," since, as stated above (II-II:81:7; II-II:84:2), the outward acts of religion are directed to the inward acts. Again the soul offers itself in sacrifice to God as its beginning by creation, and its end by beatification: and according to the true faith God alone is the creator of our souls, as stated in I:90:3; I-II:118:2, while in Him alone the beatitude of our soul consists, as stated above (I-II:01:8; I-II:2:8; I-II:3:1 and I-II:3:7 and I-II:3:8). Wherefore just as to God alone ought we to offer spiritual sacrifice, so too ought we to offer outward sacrifices to Him alone: even so "in our prayers and praises we proffer significant words to Him to Whom in our hearts we offer the things which we designate thereby," as Augustine states (De Civ. Dei x, 19)."

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Protestants MISUNDERSTAND Worship... Watch the full episode here: youtu.be/llZKg6Ivvu8

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@sincead33 @mattjhedges11 Other sources that speak to the slander present in the reformation: Sobolweski, Martin Luther, Roman Catholic Prophet Lortz, The Reformation in Germany & The Routledge Handbooks or Character Assassination

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@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 Should be good now

@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 Hoping to have a livestream on the talk next month! But I do already have a fair amount of content out on it (and likely will be what I bring up in the stream): youtube.com/playlist?list=…

@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 I agree, but hopefully it's clear to onlookers, that is the contention and we are pointing out many try to obscure this. I greatly appreciate DeYoung's honesty on the matter, but many try to make it seem like something else is being said.

@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 As the guy in the video says right after the time mark you sent he asked if DeYoung knew, of course he then lays a false charge of "just incredulity" from Gavin.

@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 You know, Gavin has an exact response to this in the video I linked pointing to this common analogy. But note here, De Young is explicit. He is not denying they "could" get help, but it is "this hospital" they must go to for the cure, the only sure one. We reject this idea.

@sincead33 Can we be expecting a video!? 👀

@DrInquisitivus @hamburber_2w @sincead33 I am rolling.

@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 Will that result in that being answered, yes, but the dialogue must move past this obscurity and refusal to engage 1 the historic teaching, and 2 the proper rejection of that teaching and pointing out there has been a change.

@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 No, what I & Gavin & others are trying to point out, is that simply responding with, "you are misunderstanding what we mean by salvation," is not actually engaging the point and underselling it. I am wanting honesty, and not vagueness. "Yet your yes be yes, and your no be no."

@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 eternal life and salvation from God's final judgement.

@ANotionToPonder @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 I am fine with, is it true or not, but the question of final judgement is being skirted around. The EO historically taught, plainly, outside of their sect there is no salvation. The answer of, "salvation is about a transformed life," does not negate the fact that it's also about

@GregChacon5 @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 Brother I didn't good over this. I have studied this passage and salvation as a whole in depth.

@GregChacon5 @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 You know what they say about assuming. You are welcome to put forth your arguments, but salvation in Scripture covers everything from justification to glorification, it is not simply possible avoiding the destruction predicted in Matthew.

@sincead33 @graywithin Dang, much appreciated. Gray how much you charge?

Is anyone aware of any English translation of this work? amazon.com/Psalmi-Davidis… @sincead33 you like obscure old works too, can you help a brother out!?

@GregChacon5 @OrthodoxEthos @AL_J82 That, does not cover the use of salvation in Scripture: youtube.com/playlist?list=…