@JulienHoez Some more hallucinations and rage QTing from a supposedly serious commentator.
You are purposely confusing cause and effect.
In any case you should be happy that Dassault can have 100% of the tech and work now. Maybe Saab will be glad to fund this to be called a thief tomorrow.
@QDetoux27454@JulienHoez The end of FCAS for anyone paying attention was the German Aeronautic Labor Union writing an open letter say working with Dassault was no longer possible.
Because they „reinterpret“ every contract into absurdity, try to screw everyone else, and then slander everybody on TV.
@QDetoux27454@JulienHoez Politico- published in English- has not even the slightest impact on German public opinion, let alone expert opinion.
France got everything it wanted in the negotiations, the plane+engine, produced in France paid for by Germany and Spain.
As if „stealth“ and „cloud“ are equival
@leo_caesaris My dude.
The biggest reason for that is because the French state is the largest shareholder in Airbus, and they pick managers on a much more „political basis“ rather than performance.
@JulienHoez@AuswaertigeA The French are absolutely unreal.
„You guys would give up just because we want you to fund Dassault development for a decade, for 66bn€, with no guarantee of success, no ownership in the product. Wow how mean.“
@SimonAR65@Tom_Antonov@LesEchos We probably don’t have a chance against the known-how of Dassault and Mrrs Trappier personally.
As industry leader and best athlete on the continent Dassault will have a finished product before we start testing.
@Tom_Antonov@DzirhanDefence Selling 12 second hand jets to Croatia, and then 12 new ones to Serbia was a really funny, but not something to really be proud of IMHO.
@jeymer@CapHornier_ Yes stop with the lies. There is no conspiracy to steal French technology, or defraud French taxpayers. Spain was willing to pay 33bn, then desperately needed for this project, that France was not and is not able to pay alone.
Let Trappier do it faster and cheaper, like he said.
@CapHornier_ we did a silly dance with France for 8 years to try to accommodate all French concerns, „technology tokens“ to facilitate swaps, these pillars, etc etc.
You got the center piece and only commercial product: the plane incl engine, paid for by Germany and Spain.
The combat cloud
@CapHornier_ Its fundamentally not about workshare.
What most analysts are to polite to say is anti German sentiment in France is too high to consider any of this.
We might as well do this project with Poland.
@CapHornier_ Good news for you. Dassault can have 100%, you just have to pay for it yourself.
What you demand, a check for 30bn Euros of German taxpayer money to start developing a plane, comes with some requirements that German interests are also taken into account. Not a radical concept.
@CapHornier_ You complain that, what was agreed (equal share of cost and work, on eye level) for Germany and Spain (4 out of 6 pillars = 66%) is unfair, and France (2 out of 6=33%) should get more… „because Germany has not built a plane since 1944 and doesn’t know how, also our biggest
@CapHornier_ This caused applause in France, and quiet outrage from Germany.
But the end of the program was the German Aerospace Union writing an open letter to the Chancellor that working with Dassault was no longer possible- they continue to make problems trying to screw everyone else.
@CapHornier_ The bold faced lying from France does not help.
Trappier said he does not want to work any „jack and George“, the wants „51% of voting rights“ (so full control) and that he can do it all „a-z“.
The implications for German involvement, of giving him full control, are clear.
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